Extropy +13: Toasters

Jan 23rd, 2011 by adminadam in home, videos

I just love the inverse demonstration of extropy that we see here in this video. The world is so full of embedded systems and technologies within technologies.

It is so difficult for one man to make and refine iron, steel, plastic, etc., yet these processes are fully matured, widespread and, in their own way, an important part of our heritage.

Our world is built upon these foundational technologies, increasingly managed by more intelligent agents and processes, increasingly allowing greater innovations to come forth: cpu’s, cell phones, airplanes, the internet, and so on.

Just as in the gene pool (but in a markedly accelerated and non-random kind of way) the technological innovations of today will form the building blocks of tomorrow’s refinements, advancements, and the overall extropic evolution nurtured by human kind. Today another brick, tomorrow a toaster pyramid.


  • If you want to make a toaster from scratch, you must first create the universe.

  • The idiocy of this is apalling. Ironically, it does demonstrate the helplessness of people. Instead of thinking creatively and reducing a toaster to its core components and showing that we are still capable of thinking, he implies that one has to recreate something that requires an entire industry to make.

    If anything, the fact that a toaster had to consist of all these things rather than, you know, a hot piece of metal, shows how desperately helpless we are.

    • At the very least it shows us how helpless we would be if we all of a sudden were stranded without our precious fountain of technology. If you look at it the other way around however, taking the view that he is trying to show us how complicated of systems we have developed, how “refined” we have become, so to speak, so that we no longer even need to (nor are we able to) use our own hands for these things but instead relegate the tasks to machines and robots, then I think he has a valid point, or objective, in showing us this.

  • Human evolution is not going forwards. Instead of allowing inferior human beings to die, we are supporting them and allowing them to have many times more children then we do. It is no longer survival of the fittest, It has become survival of those willing to impregnate many more women then they have the means of supporting. we cant afford to have many children because we need to support the children of the “fittest”

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